tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post2792328038615813491..comments2024-03-27T05:22:27.604-05:00Comments on Eddie Campbell: "'Look,' Browne said, 'St Patrick's day is coming up. You're taking a pill that is turning your urine blue..."Eddie Campbellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02492020671613766729noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-3408824666548853032007-03-22T06:09:00.000-05:002007-03-22T06:09:00.000-05:00Steve, putting two and two together i for a long t...Steve, <BR/>putting two and two together i for a long time figure it had to be a guy named Don Sherwood whe drew a patriotic miltary type strip in the early sixties titled 'Dan Flagg' (the ones I've seen always looked to me like Alden McWilliams' work)... Sherwood came out of nowhere, with no comic BOOK credits that i know of. anyway i googled his name and Smudge's together and came up with <BR/>-----<BR/>"What makes this story particularly interesting is a claim by George Evans that it is based on a true event. According to Evans (from an interview in The Comics Journal #177)…<BR/><BR/>“That was based on the guy who “drew” Dan Flagg, Don Sherwood. The first parts were art swipes from Alex Raymond’s RIP Kirby, and as the schedule hit him, producing strips seven days a week plus the story, he began to hire other people to do it. These included Al Williamson, myself and Wally Wood. He hired a whole slew of people and it turned out, as we talked to each other, that that’s what was happening. He was buying the story, buying the art and everything else, but his name was signed large and clear on all these strips. The guy was a real pain in the ass.<BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>Sherwood later drew the Flintstones for eight years, so maybe he was just out of his depth with the heroic thing. (to be charitable)<BR/><BR/>EddieEddie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02492020671613766729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-38217190311618777232007-03-22T03:27:00.000-05:002007-03-22T03:27:00.000-05:00Archie Goodwin confirmed for me that the Baldo Smu...Archie Goodwin confirmed for me that the Baldo Smudge story was indeed based on a real situation. He also told me the name of the cartoonist Baldo was based on. I, of course, didn't bother to write it down, and now I've forgotten, but he was a minor figure who- unsurprisingly - didn't have much of a career.<BR/><BR/>At my studio, it's become traditional for the first assignment for a new intern to be re-inking (over bluelines) the splash page of that story.<BR/><BR/>-Steve LieberSteve Lieberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340850263937065931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-90573233391721607432007-03-19T00:57:00.000-05:002007-03-19T00:57:00.000-05:00Thanks to Mark Evanier too.I've been going back st...Thanks to Mark Evanier too.<BR/>I've been going back studying the lettering on there. Well blow me down. Ben Oda! we're into subtleties when leterers start getting recognized.<BR/><BR/>Hi to everbody else on here.<BR/>Kelly...<BR/>Joyce's or Heller's <BR/><BR/>Jh wrote Portrait of the Artist as an OLD man... a favourite of mine<BR/><BR/>eddieEddie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02492020671613766729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-12912914160180196942007-03-19T00:36:00.000-05:002007-03-19T00:36:00.000-05:00Neal Adams maintains that the Baldo Smudge story i...Neal Adams maintains that the Baldo Smudge story is based on a real life cartoonist, but he won't say who.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-29585401248264210102007-03-18T21:53:00.000-05:002007-03-18T21:53:00.000-05:00thanks for the info, Stuart.great to hear from you...thanks for the info, Stuart.<BR/>great to hear from you.<BR/><BR/>it later occurred to me that , while Drake would not be looking downwards at a horror mag to swipe a background, it's not outside the realm of possibility that he was using an assistant for backgrounds who had no hesitation about lifting from Creepy .<BR/><BR/>that's justt an alt possibility to the one that they both clipped the same photo.Eddie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02492020671613766729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-230263530198544242007-03-18T21:46:00.000-05:002007-03-18T21:46:00.000-05:00If I'm not mistaken, that's the Standard Oil Build...If I'm not mistaken, that's the Standard Oil Building in the middle of the Williamson/ Drake panels:<BR/><BR/>http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Hulton-Archive/Standard-Oil-Building-Print-C10091373.jpeg<BR/><BR/>Two things stand out for me: one, that they both interpreted the architecture inaccurately (but similarly inaccurately), and two, that the original photo would have registered as being graphically striking enough to include in both artists' reference morgues (and likely many others' besides). <BR/><BR/>Those heavy black bookend frames are gorgeous, and in a storytelling sense, very useful.<BR/><BR/>Well spotted, Eddie.Stuart Immonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696019416374789779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-78278109915906196902007-03-18T17:48:00.000-05:002007-03-18T17:48:00.000-05:00Maybe the "brightness" of the balloon obscures par...Maybe the "brightness" of the balloon obscures part of the building nearest it. <BR/><BR/>At least that's what I think when inking stuff like that, and not liking to bring the blacks right up to the edge of another object. (that's an oddball technical sentence which maybe only makes sense to me, but I'll let it stand.)Jack Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11202365155540203592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-43442899013632151822007-03-18T11:25:00.000-05:002007-03-18T11:25:00.000-05:00re-Joyce!re-Joyce!James Robert Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281049641681225389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-23487455650590254212007-03-17T22:56:00.000-05:002007-03-17T22:56:00.000-05:00Actually, I don't know what's creepier-Chicago riv...Actually, I don't know what's creepier-Chicago river bein' green OR the weirdos that dye and eat green food (food that usually isn't green) on Saint Patrick's Day. Green milkshakes-UGH.<BR/>I'm off to end the day with The Quiet Man and then to bed with Portrait of the Artist...Kelly Kilmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07002300626700548709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-54423709542008664202007-03-17T17:39:00.000-05:002007-03-17T17:39:00.000-05:00Ah, Chicago's green river for St. Patty's Day. The...Ah, Chicago's green river for St. Patty's Day. There's something really creepy about that.<BR/><BR/>Chicago spawned one of my favorite writers: <A HREF="http://frankenstein1959.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Wayne Sallee</A>. Whose every blog entry is a work of prose poetry. (Lately, he's been recounting for all how he was run down by a car in 1989 and how this trauma affected his other health problems).James Robert Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281049641681225389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-25592976791412053452007-03-17T16:40:00.000-05:002007-03-17T16:40:00.000-05:00that story was always a well known joke among comi...that story was always a well known joke among comics people. here are a couple of refs<BR/><BR/>http://forums.comicbookresources.com/printthread.php?t=156451&page=96&pp=40<BR/><BR/>http://www.comicmonsters.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=67<BR/><BR/>Personally I thought it was ruined by the stupid horror-comic ending where the shambling bodies of the murdered artist inker and letterer come out of the river to wreak their revenge, finishing the weeks strips using Baldo's blood. <BR/>God i hate all that tasteless crap. Give me soap opera any day.<BR/>I only kept the loose pages of the Williamson story for the anecdote about the taling building panel.<BR/>Williamson and Goodwin had both been working as assistants for newspaper strip artists. Williamson for Prentice on Rip kirby and Goodwin for Leonard Starr on Mary Perkins.<BR/><BR/>When I mentioned Smudge in the post I had a bad feeling we might get sidetracked. <BR/>my pal Bissette loved that story to pieces.Eddie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02492020671613766729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-89436666366913140432007-03-17T16:20:00.000-05:002007-03-17T16:20:00.000-05:00When Frank Cho was doing the Liberty Meadows strip...When Frank Cho was doing the Liberty Meadows strip, he'd periodically claim his editors had nixed a storyline and he'd run "a heartwarming tale from one of America's most beloved cartoonists," i.e. a savage Family Circus parody. And he'd sign them "Baldo Smudge."<BR/><BR/>Oddly enough, I can find no reference to this on the web. Hang on: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.strips/browse_thread/thread/92ccc9485b58de02/c906194e32502a67?lnk=st&q=%22Baldo+Smudge%22+cho&rnum=1#c906194e32502a67Leigh Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964802750317393614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-61219366662789883472007-03-17T12:09:00.000-05:002007-03-17T12:09:00.000-05:00That cartoony touch that Stan Drake brought to pho...That cartoony touch that Stan Drake brought to photorealism came to the fore later in his career as artist on Blondie. His transition from Julliet Jones to that strip made me go Whaaaaaa? but his art fit that as well. Occasional touches of Drake's reality-based style came through, particularly in scene-setting shots during carpool drives and bit-character faces that were presumably recognizable cameos of friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1752841194995687278.post-28458405338732748312007-03-17T02:37:00.000-05:002007-03-17T02:37:00.000-05:00Turning everything green (including piss) is an es...Turning everything green (including piss) is an esthetic choice. Are not all esthetic choices also moral choices? (for the artist who leaves his wife and child to make art, still believes he is doing it for the greater good.) If so, are morals pointless? Are they only obstacles to our pursuit of art. Then again, what is art without esthetics? If one cannot exist without the other, does that make art pointless, too? This canna be!!! For ideas come from art (or does art come from ideas?) and ideas are the origin of everything mankind has made for it's self. In which case we must conclude that we are all pointless, which I canna except, because I'm too good looking to be. Ah, train of thought, tong in cheek. I crack me up sometimes. Well, I'm off to me kip. Enjoy the day.Christopher Moonlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16805942313835669938noreply@blogger.com